if you haven't read my
previous post, that might give you some context. two theories that i've heard:
1. "judgment" as regards israel:
the
international christian embassy jerusalem had an
interesting take, and i think as foreigners (largely american) who unquestionably support israel, they have a right to be heard:
...my friends, be careful. "Vengeance is mine", says the Lord and we should back away from playing God! It is not time to pronounce judgment but to humble ourselves, repent and call upon God for mercy. Mercy for ourselves and for all of our nations.
as far as israel goes, obviously G-d says He to judge anyone who divides up His land. but the Gaza disengagement buck stops with
israel, not america. the Gaza withdrawal was a decision taken by the nation of israel. now, a lot of Messianic Jews want the L-rd to have compassion and avert His judgment from that nation, and we must pray for that.
but for those of us in the USA, shouldn't we also be praying for the aversion of judgment from our own nation? and if something bad happens to our nation, shouldn't we be getting on our knees and praying for those suffering, in mercy and humility, forgetting what lies behind and pressing on toward the upward call?
also, one of the important details that people seem to miss here (ICEJ points it out in
their statement) is that the USA is the staunchest friend of israel. europe, on the other hand, has been consistently undermining israel ever since she was reborn. so why hasn't europe had disasters to the scale of 9/11 and katrina?
here's a notion (i don't fully subscribe to this either, but it's a thought): maybe it's the
other guy who is attacking the USA.
2. "judgment" as regards immorality in new orleans and america:
i have heard this one too: that it is because of the immorality, and new orleans has always had this reputation of being a bastion of immorality. in fact, i have even heard that there were warnings from the prophetic community that new orleans would be flooded if america didn't clean up her moral act.
now, i give credit to those who said something
beforehand rather than after the fact. but like i wrote
here, anyone paying attention in the Fall of 2004 could have predicted this would happen to new orleans unless drastic action was taken. such a prophecy was almost a safe bet.
in addition, my dad pointed out that this prophecy / warning most likely never made it into the hands of president bush or the mayor of new orleans. so who was the prophecy to? the body of believers. and we should have been praying. the way my dad sees it, if this was truly the case, then we are all responsible.
if i'm going to give credence and actually listen to
anyone saying this is judgment, they'd better be saying it from the place of a broken heart for the people who died, lost their families, lost all their worldly goods. they'd better be saying it while looking
ahead and begging G-d for mercy and revival, not looking
back at how bad this nation is and how much we deserved it. they'd better be saying it without a judgmental bone in their body, fully humble and recognising that their nature is just as sinful and depraved as the "Them" that G-d is supposedly judging, and only by the grace of the L-rd are they not a body in the water themselves.